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Rhet gre 1359b12-16
ὅσῳ δ’ ἄν τις ἢ τὴν διαλεκτικὴν ἢ (13) ταύτην μὴ καθάπερ ἂν δυνάμεις ἀλλ’ ἐπιστήμας πειρᾶται (14) κατασκευάζειν, λήσεται τὴν φύσιν αὐτῶν ἀφανίσας τῷ μετα(15)βαίνειν ἐπισκευάζων εἰς ἐπιστήμας ὑποκειμένων τινῶν πρα(16)γμάτων, ἀλλὰ μὴ μόνον λόγων.
Anonymus, 8th century (?) A.D. ara L 19:16-20
وذلك بأن يتكلف متكلف تهيئة هذه الديالقطيقية فيوصل طبيعتهن ويلغي ما فيهن من الاختلاف ويهيئون نحو العلم إذ يجعل الموضوع لها ليس أمورا ما لكن الكلام فقط
Rhys Roberts 1924 eng
But the more we try to make either dialectic rhetoric not, what they really are, practical faculties, but sciences, the more we shall inadvertently be destroying their true nature; for we shall be re—fashioning them and shall be passing into the region of sciences dealing with definite subjects rather than simply with words and forms of reasoning.
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